You will be sent a copy of the following agreement and disclaimer form to the email address you enter in the checkout.

Agreement & Disclaimer Form

This agreement is made between you and JELM Consulting Ltd. T/A “Breakthrough That”. (registered address: 17-19 Station Road West, Oxted, Surrey, RH8 9EE, United Kingdom).

You are getting access to a:

  • Series of 7 x pre-recorded training videos
  • Special clients only Facebook Group


By purchasing this offer you get access to the pre recorded videos and Facebook Group. As part of signing up you agree to abide by the following rules for the different elements of the program:

Facebook Group

This group is a place where you can share your experiences, celebrate wins, meet other participants and join in relevant discussions. The group is run by a member of John's team. You acknowledge that this is a support group not a place for in depth coaching.

You agree to abide by the rules on the Facebook Group, these may change from time to time.

Access To Training Materials

For so long as the program is active you will be able to access the training materials via our members area.

In the event the program is stopped you will be given a reasonable amount of time to continue accessing the resources.


You, as the participant in the Conversations About Health Product acknowledge that whilst coaching is a potentially life-changing experience, you also accept that it is not an intervention in the form of therapy and that, at all times, you remain responsible for my choices, actions, thoughts, and feelings throughout the coaching program. 

You also understand that you are the custodian for your own health, and that neither John El-Mokadem nor anyone working in a teaching capacity are medical practitioners. You are fully aware that the essence of this package will be to direct you towards a greater sense of emotional wellbeing that may have a positive effect on your physical health. You understand it is your responsibility to consult with a physician and/or qualified medical practitioner before making any changes to your medical treatment regime(s) or if you have any symptoms that cause you concern.

You further acknowledge that you understand that the Conversations About Health Product is not a substitute for proper medical healthcare, and that no guarantees have been made to you directly or indirectly regarding the likely results you can achieve as a result of your participation.    

By accessing the program and checking the tick box on the checkout acknowledging you've read the terms and conditions, you also agree not to hold John El-Mokadem or any other practitioner or individual introduced in a teaching capacity into the program, nor JELM Consulting Ltd., it’s respective officers, directors, staff or contractors, or any other participant of the program liable for any losses or damages, including any perceived or actual negative changes in your health, whether mental, physical, or emotional that occurs as a direct or indirect result of your participation in this program, in perpetuity.


A copy of this agreement, a record of your participation and any personal information provided will all be stored electronically and on cloud based file storage systems based on servers located in various locations. 

You understand that all reasonable care will be taken by JELM Consulting Ltd. to ensure the security of your personal information. However, you also acknowledge that internet sites are not always secure and that breaches of confidentiality, although rare, can happen. You agree not to hold John El-Mokadem, Karen Di Marco nor JELM Consulting Ltd., it's respective officers, directors, staff or contractors liable for any losses or damages that might occur as a result of such breaches, in perpetuity.


This agreement is governed by the laws of the United Kingdom. The parties specifically agree that, regardless of where any breach occurs, and regardless of the citizenship, nationality, or residence of any party, whether in the United Kingdom or abroad, that jurisdiction over any dispute arising under this Agreement shall be exclusively with the courts situated within the United Kingdom. In the event of any dispute, professional mediation will be employed before any other legal action can take place.

This agreement cannot be modified without express written consent from both parties. Please store this copy of the terms and conditions for accessing the Conversations About Health Product for your own records.


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Conversations About Health

Do you want a flavour of the kinds of conversation I have with my health clients?

These Conversations About Health were live group sessions run during the global health pandemic in 2020.

In these chats we collectively looked at, in an easy going format, what was healthy about us even in the midst of a great deal of uncertainty, people getting sick and a changing world.

As part of these recordings you will also be able to access the Foundations of Health Community where you can see more of how these chats develop into more specific conversations around physical health.

You will be able to join in conversations, explore these topics further and get support on your journey.

You will get access to...

  • 7 x 1 Hour Conversations Recordings (where John talks about and answers questions on topics including Dealing With Change, Stress, Fear, Pain, Happiness, The Potential For Hope and many more.
  • Access To The Foundations of Health Community Facebook Group Where You Can Join In Discussions, Ask Further Questions & Stay In The Conversation